Old School RPG Renaissance and Retro-clone D&D Role-playing Games
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Old School RPG Renaissance and Retro-clone D&D Role-playing Games

Barbarians of Lemuria www.1km1kt.net www.rpgnow.com BOL isn’t a retro-clone, but it does have a old school feel to it. Here are my two reviews of BOL www.youtube.com www.youtube.com Basic Fantasy Role-playing Game (Free) www.basicfantasy.org BFRP isn’t exactly a ‘retro-clone’, but a restatement of the B/X rules with some changes (splitting classes and races), and some d20 elements (armour class system, etc.) Castles & Crusades www.trolllord.com C&C has many tropes of older editions, with strict class roles and simple, class-based abilities without the complexity of skills and feats. It does however, use material from the OGL and uses a unified mechanic (d20, roll high) and an ability check system. Dark Dungeons (In Progress) darkdungeonsblog.wordpress.com Dark Dungeons is a Rules Cyclopedia & B/E/C/M/I clone that is in progress. Dragon Warriors www.magnumopuspress.com Dragon Warriors was big in the UK, but not so much here in the USA. Dragonsfoot Forum www.dragonsfoot.org Home of the OSR (Old School Renaissance). Dungeonslayers (Free) www.dungeonslayers.com I don’t have much experience with this one. GORE www.rpgnow.com D100 retro-clone Hackmaster Basic www.kenzerco.com Labyrinth Lord Website & Forum (Free) www.goblinoidgames.com www.freeyabb.com LL is a ‘retro-clone’ of the 1981 Basic & Expert (Moldvay/Cook) D&D rules (extended up to level 20). Check out LL’s AEC (Advanced Edition Companion) which includes lots of 1st edition ideas into the easier LL ruleset. Mazes

25 Responses to “Old School RPG Renaissance and Retro-clone D&D Role-playing Games”

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @Clangador It really is more of a general video to spread the word around a little about retro-clones than to take an in depth look at them. After my local convention here in Nov, I hope to (keeping my fingers crossed) take some time out to do more RPG reviews and general RPG videos. Do you have a favorite Retro-clone?

  • Clangador:

    You should really do more research so you know more about what you’re talking about before posting a review like this.

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @pspboy7 Dark Dungeons is very nice as well. If I wasn’t already running a Labyrinth Lord campaign I might have ran a Dark Dungeons game. I know it is mainly based off of the Dungeons & Dragons Rules Cyclopedia which in turn was based off of the BECMI boxed sets of classic Mentzer D&D. He also has some of his own rules in there to tweak some stuff. I like how the demi-humans all go up to level 36 like the other classes.

  • pspboy7:

    OSRIC, Old School Rules Information Compilation. I believe. Another retro clone game would be Dark Dungeons. Google it. It is heavily based on 1st and 2nd edtion AD&D and older D&D boxed sets.

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @bloodlust1997 Thanks for the link. I’ve never heard of it.

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @Disemvowel I’ve heard some great feedback from friends of mine that like Dragon Age. I have yet to get a look at it myself.

  • bloodlust1997:

    dont forget to drop by osrgaming org the best place for old school gaming !

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @DayTripper327 That’s pretty cool DayTripper. Thanks for watching.

  • DayTripper327:

    @YuriPRIME: I wrote a setting for the Labyrinth Lord RPG called “Engines & Empires.” It’s Napoleonic/Victorian flavored, with muskets and steampunk science, but it’s still your basic “magic and elves” high fantasy.

  • Disemvowel:

    Dragon Age RPG by Green Ronin is one of, if not, the best new systems for lite gamers. An outstanding system, one which is easily adaptable outside of the video game setting.

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @DeathKnight120 I’m glad I could be of assistance. LL is a retro-clone of Basic & Expert Classic Dungeons & Dragons. It is fun to tinker with it, and bolt on house rules as well. The Advanced Edition Companion is also free, and is a good source for extra items, spells, and to separate class and race, if that is your thing. Good luck with the campaign, let me know how it goes. I’m running a LL game as well with a big ole megadungeon. :)

  • DeathKnight120:

    Thanks, for making this video I had no idea that these games actually existed. I’ve played Hackmaster which was combination of 1st and 2nd edition D&D with some complex rules thrown in. However, the basic version (which is the 4th edition in the series) is a lot simpler compared to the old version and is kind of their own thing. My upcoming campaign will use LL since it captures the old school feel really well.

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @YuriPRIME There are lots of RPGs out there that aren’t in the stereotypical medieval fantasy genre. Maybe Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay would work? I’ve heard 2nd Edition is good. It has guns if nothing else. Talislanta is weird, cool, and free. Tekumel – Empire of the Petal Throne is very rich in detail, and has a sort of sci-fantasy vibe to it. Have you ever tried out Call of Cthulhu? How about a Western RPG? Coyote Trail is a pretty good Western, Dogs in the Vineyard is a story game.

  • YuriPRIME:

    Is there any RPG that you can recommend and is not in stereotypical mediaval fantasy period? Because it bores me to fucking death already >.> Been looking for something about 17th-19th century, with firearms(muskets and such), fewer magic…
    Or perhaps anything in Victorian or Napoleonic Period? That would be a fantasy setting I would love to see, also “Great War” setting! I could not find any on the internet so far ;(

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @SolomoriahBFRPG Yeah, I’m on the Dragonsfoot Forum. I post mostly in the Classic D&D, & Simulacrum areas of the forum. I do more reading than posting through. Thanks again for commenting, I feel honored. :)

  • SolomoriahBFRPG:

    @Samwise7RPG You’re welcome. I was in on the “ground floor” of retro-clones; I’m the guy at Dragonsfoot who manages the Workshop and Simulacrum Games forums. Are you a member?

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @SolomoriahBFRPG Wow, thanks for coming here to clear that up. I’ve never played Basic Fantasy, and I made this video without much experience with many of the games. The main idea was to link to all the ones I knew about. I really like Labyrinth Lord, so I’ve been messing around with that lately. I need to check out Basic Fantasy. Thanks for dropping buy. :)

  • SolomoriahBFRPG:

    As the author of Basic Fantasy RPG, let me say that it is absolutely a retroclone. Despite the description I give on the home page, it is far closer to the experience of playing the game circa 1981 than it is any version post 2000. It is really easy to use the old B and X series modules with Basic Fantasy RPG, just as with other retroclone games; just invert the AC (subtract it from 20), and in most cases that’s the only real change.

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @AmericanCurmudgeon I own a copy of Empire of the Petal Throne, but all I’ve done is flip through it. I bought 4 books for that setting at a convention, and I wish I had about $100 more in my wallet then, because there was so much cool stuff the one vendor had. In a way it was sad, because it felt like he was selling off his old school collection, but I gave them a good home. :)

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @AmericanCurmudgeon Sounds like we agree on everything in that post right there. :) Thanks for the comment. I like the phone book analogy, hehe. I can see an element of protest in making, playing, and running the retro-clones. Hopefully, I will be doing a Swords & Wizardry, and a BRP Classic Fantasy review (when I get time to read them all the way through).

  • AmericanCurmudgeon:

    My favorite Old School Game… “Empire of the Petal Throne.” While the rules have its flaws, I think it’s the most approachable game set in Prof. Barker’s fantastic world of Tekumel. Proceeding games–Swords & Glory, Gardisyal: Adventures On Tekumel, and Tekumel: Empire of the Petal throne–where all much, much too crunchy to be playable.

    Tsolyanu rules!

  • AmericanCurmudgeon:

    I’m a full fledged member of the Old School Movement. Why? Several Reason.

    It harkens back to a time when rules were simple to understand and learn and where ROLE-playing mattered over ROLL-playing. I shouldn’t need four to five New-York-City-Phone-Directory-Sized books with rules for EVERY gaming situation to play a bloody game. That’s what you have a GM for.

    Also, I consider Old School Gaming Movement to be a protest against the abomination that is D&D 4 Ed.

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @acidglow I never played those, but I liked Bard’s Tale for the computer, and some of the Baldur’s Gate games. I think there was a game for NES called Wizardry, but the game was a bit wonky…

  • acidglow:

    @Samwise7RPG
    Did you ever play the 2 arcade games Tower of Doom and Shadow over Mystara?

  • Samwise7RPG:

    @acidglow I like lots of RPGs, but yeah, I’ve played a lot of D&D games. I got burned out on the more modern versions as of late, which is why I want to hearken back to older games, or games that emulate older games which have more flexibility and aren’t as crunchy, rule-wise.

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